The Pursuit
Join my best friend, Brandy and I, as we dive deeper into the subject of marriage and divorce. Not to mention, what it takes to pursue Jesus in our daily lives. So, get your wine glasses (and your kleenex) ready! This one is a doozy.
Transcript
Welcome back, everyone to I Can, he Can.
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:This is episode 11 and I am super,
super excited to jump into this episode
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:where my best friend Brandy and I have
a conversation about life, marriage
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:and being pursued and pursuing Jesus.
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:this is a very.
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:Lengthy episode, I guess, and I truly
hope that you guys get something from it
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:and that you enjoy Have a blessed day.
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:Be safe,
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:So without further ado, here's episode 11.
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:I literally stand here and I worship.
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:I always that's kind of like how I was
when I was cleaning today and the other
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:day I was on my knees and like crying.
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:And then I look at my wall and
I look at all the scriptures.
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:Oh my God, I'm gonna cry.
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:And then you say, I cry a lot.
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:Oh my God, you're really crying.
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:Aw, I know.
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:And I'm gonna be crying.
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:Thank God.
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:This is audio only, right?
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:Aw.
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:And it's probably yeah, it's
also a little bit of the alcohol.
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:So I just feel like for so long
God has put these messages in my
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:heart, in my, and like in my life,
and I just never focused on them.
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:Like I never trusted them.
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:He's always told me I'm gonna
fight your battles like.
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:Why are you worrying?
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:Pray about it, trust me and they've
always been there, but I never
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:bothered to really look into that.
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:And sometimes it's right
there in front of our face.
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:He's right there.
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:Yeah.
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:And for so long too.
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:For so long.
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:But we just, we don't focus because
we want our way a lot of the time.
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:And I remember Mike and I putting
that collage together and I, and
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:actually like hanging it up at our
old house, in our new house and
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:the scriptures were always there.
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:But it wasn't until I was by
myself, that I really realized like.
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:I looked at them and I read into them and
God was telling me why are you worrying?
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:I've always been here, but
you just haven't trusted me.
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:You haven't?
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:Oh my God.
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:Why am I crying so much?
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:I'm sad.
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:Yeah.
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:You're sad today.
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:You're, you're Sari today.
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:I just, I don't know.
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:I've done this like a lot by myself, but
I feel, I mean, I feel like that's when
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:we're the most vulnerable me all the time.
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:Hello?
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:Like in the shower, in the
car, and I have no tints.
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:You told me my next car,
I need to get tints.
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:I remember the first
time you went to church.
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:Why we, we should totally be recording.
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:I am.
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:Oh, you are?
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:You think I haven't been recording?
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:Oh my God, no.
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:Since the beginning.
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:Oh.
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:My church.
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:I remember the first time you
went to church and how, like you
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:didn't know how to act, yeah.
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:You were listening to the music.
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:You didn't know whether to put your hands
up or down, or I could see your body
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:language, you know, totally awkward.
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:And, and then I remember you just
starting to cry in one of the songs
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:and you were just like, crying so much.
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:I couldn't anymore.
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:I know.
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:My heart was just like, can
you just give up already?
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:Yeah.
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:just like let it out.
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:I know.
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:And I remember rubbing your back and
hugging you and putting my arm around
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:you because I had been there so many
times in church, wanting to put my
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:hands up and just surrender to God.
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:But I, I didn't know how, I didn't,
I felt like kind of embarrassed to,
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:but then I saw you and I, and I saw
you, the tears and I was like, oh,
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:God, God's working on her.
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:You know
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:you are gonna cry.
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:Yeah, bro.
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:Time I join you.
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:I'm like, this is, I'm late to the party.
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:I know.
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:I was like, you know, and, and, and
I was, in a way, I was like, so happy
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:to see it because I felt like you were
having trouble surrendering to him.
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:I felt like you were having trouble
opening up your heart to him, and he
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:was just wanting to get to you so bad.
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:And, and at that very moment at church,
I, I realized like he was in, that's it.
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:Yeah.
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:You were there.
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:It was the shame.
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:And you know, you know, we're
not gonna talk about that today.
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:You know, we gotta keep this speech.
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:Yes, please, And that, but it
really was the shame of all of that.
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:even just thinking about it now,
it's if I ever tell anyone else the
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:details that I've told you, because
you're literally the only person
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:that knows all of those things.
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:But if I ever tell anyone the details of
all of those things, how could anyone
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:look at me the same like a regular
human that's they're no better than me.
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:They're gonna look at
me like I'm horrible.
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:So I was thinking like, how
could God want me like that?
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:How could God want a person who has
done all of those things and, um,
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:I don't know, but he does,
like, look at us now.
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:No, because He does, he gives us so
much grace and he, he loves us so much.
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:And, if you felt like that, you know,
all of my deepest, darkest secrets and
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:I've been a Christian for a really long
time, but God, he's seen me like walk
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:away from him after I completely surrender
to him and like asked him to forgive me.
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:And then I make these
mistakes over and over again.
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:And he still forgives me and he still
loves me, even when I don't deserve it,
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:And that's after I have, messed up again.
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:Seen Yeah.
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:after I have experienced
what he's done for me.
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:And how he's never turned his
back on me and then all of a
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:sudden I've turned my back on him.
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:I don't know.
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:he just continues to give us grace and
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:man, like that song, um, It's by Hillsong.
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:Hillsong as you find me.
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:Oh, as you find me.
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:Oh, should we play it?
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:Yeah.
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:Put it.
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:Yeah.
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:Alexa.
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:Alexa.
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:Play Hillsong as you find me, by the way.
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:I've seen him in concert.
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:Yeah, you have?
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:Yeah.
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:Maria and I went together.
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:I love Hillsong.
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:Have I heard this one?
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:This song?
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:I came across it when I first
started going to church.
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:And the blessing years ago when one of
my old coworkers showed it to me, and
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:that was the first song that I now know
that the Holy Spirit was like, hello
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:calling, like, what are you doing?
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:But this was the song that really
made me realize it doesn't matter,
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:where you are, what you've done.
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:I'm, I'm here.
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:I'm here and I'm ready for you.
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:Oh, you're gonna cry.
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:You started it.
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:I know.
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:I'm sorry.
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:You started and I looked like
I scared you because you're not
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:used to seeing me cry like that.
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:I'm not, but you've heard me
cry so many times on phone.
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:I'm just, I'm just so awkward.
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:when people are crying you, you are,
you're like looking at me like all weird.
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:Yeah.
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:Because I don't know how to be.
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:you see, that's why I'm saying like,
I'm not like your usual people person.
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:You say I'm a people person.
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:I'm like, I'm not a people person.
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:You are so a people person.
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:I'm not a people person.
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:Look, this part, that part
just breaks me what they say.
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:Alexa, louder.
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:Let's see if it comes
out on the mic today.
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:Alexa.
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:Louder.
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:Gosh, she's so deaf.
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:Let's see if it comes out later.
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:Don't deserve this kind Love.
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:I don't deserve this kind of love.
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:Somehow
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:a grace I can never add up.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:Yes.
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:This part.
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:You love me?
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:Oh yes.
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:You love me as you find me.
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:Yes.
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:Yes.
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:I've heard this song so many times.
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:That part.
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:Yes.
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:That part, like when I really listened
to it when I was driving, I remember
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:I had just gotten off on Weston Road.
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:I stopped at a light and I just felt it.
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:I'm like, I am so messed up.
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:internally, so messed up.
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:And he is just calling me he
just wants me to be better.
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:And I was just like, oh.
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:Anyway, I still messed up after that part.
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:Yeah.
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:Again, yeah, a few weeks later he knows
it was such a struggle then I repented
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:it again and messed up once or twice.
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:Like I'm not as bad, but now.
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:Especially after, I told, had
told Ernesto, Hey, that's it.
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:I don't want our marriage anymore.
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:I feel like in that moment
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:it's how come my heart change
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:so fast?
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:like change Brandy, the next day
you, you called me, you texted me,
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:and I'm just like, no, we're fine.
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:How could your heart go from one second
being cold looking a person in the eye
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:saying, I don't want anything anymore,
to then I don't know what I was doing.
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:I have no other words,
but God was like, Sarah.
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:You can't do that.
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:You can't do that now.
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:And I don't know if it was like
a sermon or something, like, it
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:really dawned on me marriage is not
supposed to be how I wanna be loved.
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:marriages is, we're just supposed
to make it work together.
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:It's not a lot about me.
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:It's not.
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:And I feel like I have made sacrifices
for his way of being and sometimes
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:we have to, you know, come to an
agreement, but at the same time it's
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:like, that's not what marriage is about.
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:No.
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:And I feel like he finally
implanted that in my heart.
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:but anyway, this is not what we
had planned to talk about today.
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:No, it's not.
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:It are you and you're recording?
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:Yeah.
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:I mean we can, we can still
talk about the pursuit I think.
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:I mean, wow.
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:I love this.
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:Yeah, me too.
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:I love this.
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:Honestly.
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:Like, Alexa, lower?
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:Yeah, it's a little loud, but, I love
the way that God has worked in our
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:lives, like how he brought us together.
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:Want I'm me to cry?
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:These are supposed to be
the fun episodes, Brandy.
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:I know.
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:'cause it's true.
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:It's true What Iani said, it's
true in the women's group, the
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:last women's group that we were in.
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:maybe your marriage fell apart,
but look at what you got out of it.
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:You got a best friend, I
don't think we would've ever.
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:Connected the way we did, if it wasn't for
what I was going through at that moment.
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:Yeah.
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:And if it wasn't for this disease
that I've said so many times,
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:I hate multiple sclerosis.
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:I said it to him when I just
looked in his eyes and I said, I
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:don't want our marriage to end.
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:And I said, I hate this disease.
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:I hate what it did to our family,
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:but
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:it did something good did come out of it.
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:another soul saved he's
finding his way too.
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:Yeah.
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:In some aspects.
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:you're definitely fighting your way.
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:Yeah.
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:Little by little.
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:I don't feel like I'm saying God wide me
anymore, I felt like I was saying that a
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:lot for a long time, you know, with the
struggles, with my relationship with my
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:mom and my husband, I felt like, why me?
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:I feel like God is using
me something greater.
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:So, I mean, you already changed me so.
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:I know we look so ugly.
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:We look so ugly right now.
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:We look so ugly now with
our cool Mom's club shirts.
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:We haven't even talked so long.
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:Oh my God.
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:We're here.
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:I wish I had cameras in here.
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:Oh my God.
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:Oh my gosh.
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:Me too.
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:I, I really should have
recorded this one video.
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:Um, oh my gosh.
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:for so long, like I, I, I look to
myself I was always like, why me
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:God, like, I didn't even say why
me, God, I just like, why my life?
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:Like, why my family?
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:Why am my marriage, you know,
just like when Ella was going
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:through her stuff, like, why.
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:Why Ella?
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:and I know that there's so many other
things that can happen, like you were
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:telling me about your, barber, and
everything that he's going through,
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:and then you really analyze okay,
my situation is, it feels horrible.
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:Yeah.
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:But it puts it into perspective.
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:Yeah.
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:Could be worse.
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:And and look at Elle.
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:Oh my God.
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:Her hair is growing back.
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:She's so cute on, she's so tiny.
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:She is so tiny.
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:She's so little.
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:She's gonna be so petite.
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:I know.
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:I wish I was that petite
when I was little.
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:I dunno.
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:Well, you're short.
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:Sounds like something like you anos.
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:Oh my God, that's so funny.
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:Al Sosa, for sure.
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:Oh my gosh, my God.
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:I look forward to this, and you thought
it was probably a dumb idea when I
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:was like, we need to have a podcast.
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:Oh, to have a Totally.
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:I really did.
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:I was like, oh my god, sari,
you're being so extreme.
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:Like a podcast, really, but
I think you do a great job.
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:I don't feel like I'm capable of
doing some of the things sometimes.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:I felt like I wouldn't be good
at doing a podcast I don't know.
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:I just overthink things.
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:now that we're on that topic,
Alexa next song Or lower?
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:Yeah.
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:Oh, okay.
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:Well, thank you.
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:Um, what was that
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:random song?
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:Alexa lower.
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:Alexa lower.
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:I'm gonna spank you.
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:Alexa,
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:imagine she says, I
don't know what that is.
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:Alexa, lower.
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:Said, I Tell her, I'm just kidding.
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:No, I'm gonna have to cut that out.
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:I'm sorry.
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:Okay.
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:Alexa, stop I will leave it.
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:But What was the last
word that you had said?
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:I overthink it.
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:Like I overthink things am I
gonna be, oh my knees, That hurt.
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:That's 40.
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:Oh my God, no.
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:Oh, that really hurt.
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:No, it really did.
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:No, because your leg
was bent the whole time.
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:Anyway, what you were saying reminded
me of like a conversation that I
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:had with Damara and Tory and mm-hmm.
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:Um, what's, what's the little name
of our group that, um, it's called
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:The Span Spanglish something.
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:The Spanglish Tribe for Jesus.
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:I love it.
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:When I heard it, I was laughing.
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:I was like, I was in bed and
I was laughing And it's, it's
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:funny because like the, our whole
conversation was like, English,
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:Spanish, English, Spanish, whatever.
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:And then was actually saying, maybe
yesterday or today, she was like, oh, I
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:don't know if I would've never done this
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:And then Nori, Tori's mom
was like, you know what?
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:I just wanna say thank you because
you guys are just jumping on this.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:just doing it.
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:no if ands or buts, you
just run and do things.
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:And I feel that's something
that I've always had.
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:Like impulsive.
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:Yes.
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:Like very bad.
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:You're very impulsive.
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:Yeah.
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:Very bad sometimes.
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:But like when it comes for stuff
like this, I've never been afraid.
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:Yeah.
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:To do things.
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:Yeah.
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:Whatever.
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:People laugh.
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:Ah, okay.
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:Or if people think, ah, you're crazy.
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:Like I have never been
afraid to do anything.
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:Yeah.
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:And I'm so glad I'm doing this.
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:Yeah, me too.
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:Now, now.
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:No, it's true.
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:It's true.
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:Because it is your impulsiveness always.
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:because when you think of
something, you're there.
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:I have to do it.
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:I have to.
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:It's funny 'cause mic was like that too.
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:Ugh.
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:I know.
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:Oh, I don't like to say it because
we remember we were talking
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:about this on the last podcast.
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:Oh.
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:But then the technical difficulties, we
should, but the Leo stuff, perfect segue.
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:Leo.
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:I have to pee though.
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:Okay.
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:I don't wanna, actually,
I, I am gonna pause.
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:Okay.
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:We're gonna take a small Riesling and
Prosecco break And pee break, guys.
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:so we're back from our break
cups are refilled and and
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:we finally dried our eyes.
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:Bradley dried her eyes.
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:I feel like I've been punched
in both eyes from crying.
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:Yeah.
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:You cried a lot today, bro.
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:Um, we're a cool moms club.
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:Yeah.
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:Crying moms.
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:I wanna see the ring video.
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:when I came over today, it just so
happened that she's wearing the shirt
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:that I got her that says Cool Mom's Club.
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:And I was wearing the exact same shirt.
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:we're like, what?
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:We are matching.
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:Love it.
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:Oh my God.
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:Oh my God, that is so awesome.
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:I know.
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:I love it.
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:I'm gonna send it to you.
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:Yeah, please send it to me.
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:Yeah.
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:We're so connected.
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:This is just on a regular day.
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:But before the break, what we were talking
about was how I was impulsive and we got
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:into the conversation of the zodiacs.
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:Oh yeah.
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:And in our very first episode together,
that was the conversation that the mic
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:just shut off and it didn't get any of it.
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:Hold on.
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:Check, mic.
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:Let me see your mic here.
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:Just guys, we're just making sure.
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:Okay.
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:It's blue.
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:Is mine blue?
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:Yeah, my yours is blue.
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:Okay.
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:Thank you Laura.
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:Thank you Laura.
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:So going back to the zodiacs, we
were talking about how it's fun, in
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:today's culture, we like to compare our
personalities and our characteristics
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:with the zodiac signs, right?
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:Mm-hmm.
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:it's something that I've done for so long.
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:I do that all the time.
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:It's still hard for me
to not wanna do that.
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:And we do and we compare, but like
then we're comparing like these
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:negative characteristics and traits.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:Like for example, Leo's being impulsive
and Aries being very stubborn and you
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:know, like those are not characteristics
and traits that God wants us.
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:Exactly.
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:Like none of them, if you really think
about it, none of it is positive.
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:Nothing.
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:you know what now for, for fun, I
mean there are some positive traits
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:like being a natural born leader.
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:I know like fire science are leaders,
but Who should be leading Exactly.
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:And who should we really be
following That makes you forget.
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:That makes you forget what
the Bible says, Jesus God.
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:Right.
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:The hierarchy of how it should be.
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:Okay.
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:So I'm looking at a few of
the characteristics for Leos.
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:'cause Millo.
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:Loyal.
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:Okay.
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:Yes.
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:That I do agree with.
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:I'm a very loyal person.
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:Confident, sometimes charismatic.
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:Yes.
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:Generous.
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:I'm very generous.
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:You are very ambitious,
creative, arrogant.
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:I don't think I'm arrogant, domineering.
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:does it say stubborn in there?
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:Because you, you can't be very stubborn.
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:No.
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:No.
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:Last time I think I had mentioned
that, um, stingy was one that came up
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:once that I was like, I'm not stingy.
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:You're not any of these egotistical.
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:I don't see you snobbish.
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:I'm not a snob.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:No.
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:Some people listen, I'm
not everyone's cup of tea.
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:There are some people, I'm very surprised
that you're not like that because I,
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:that you're not like, think I'm, I
think I could be very like bubbly and
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:sometimes like just talk too much and
some people just may not like that.
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:But then I also feel there's some days
that you don't want to talk to anybody
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:and you're very Closed off or you can
tell that you're bothered by that person.
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:Yeah, you are.
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:Because I agree.
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:that first day that I went up to you that
you're, the look on your face was like,
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:that's me not being a people person.
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:And then you don't believe me.
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:I, not a people, people, but then I didn't
even, I just kept on, I was like, hi.
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:But I, but I come across
as a, you're too nice.
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:I, yeah, you are.
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:You too.
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:And I, I really do.
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:I, I do feel like I am nice.
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:Like I, bro, you are like my
sister, like Hailey, like you guys.
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:She's so sweet.
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:I love her.
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:You guys Ute and you're both Aries.
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:She's an Aries.
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:She was born April 1st.
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:Yeah.
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:See there we are comparing
and saying, you know what?
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:Zodiacs.
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:We are.
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:I know, but she's always
like, she's always like, hi,
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:she's, and you're like that.
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:And even when people hit on me or
they try to start a conversation
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:with me and I don't want to, it's
very hard for me to cut them off.
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:Did you guys hear that?
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:She said that when someone hits on her.
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:Okay.
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:I just wanna clock that.
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:Like the gardener.
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:Oh my.
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:I use the hip lingo clock.
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:Anyway.
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:Okay, so what were,
what were we getting at?
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:Um, I don't even know anymore,
the reality is that God doesn't
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:want us to idolize anything.
522
:And honestly, people do
idolize those kinds of things.
523
:Finding out your future, looking into the
horoscopes No, I just thought about this.
524
:So the funny thing is, is that
now that you say, talk about
525
:idolizing and horoscopes.
526
:when I was separated.
527
:Okay.
528
:I was so desperate.
529
:I went on YouTube.
530
:And I remember my sister and a friend
telling me, man, this lady is on point
531
:when it comes to like astrology So
I started following her and Mm-hmm.
532
:And then you'd actually catch up her.
533
:Gosh.
534
:And if you told her your name
and your date of birth, she would
535
:answer whatever questions you had.
536
:Mm-hmm.
537
:Like a tarot reader.
538
:Yeah.
539
:A tar reader.
540
:And dude, being a Christian.
541
:Yeah.
542
:Okay.
543
:I paid her, $20 for three questions Wow.
544
:and I remember her telling me that
guests, our marriage was gonna be
545
:restored, but it was gonna be very easy.
546
:Well, she was right.
547
:She was right.
548
:But instead of focusing on God, I
was still bringing in these other.
549
:Things that I shouldn't have into my life.
550
:Like really, idolizing those things
instead of, of really focusing on God.
551
:So do you wanna start talking
about what we're gonna talk about?
552
:I'm really glad how this
has turned out by the way.
553
:Yeah.
554
:Um, I was talking about me earlier,
that no matter how many times I messed
555
:up and, and did all these crazy things,
God was still there pursuing me.
556
:Mm-hmm.
557
:And he just he will never back off.
558
:Mm-hmm.
559
:when does he actually back off?
560
:Like when does God give up on a person?
561
:Yeah.
562
:I don't feel like he gives up.
563
:I feel like he just stops where
he's at and he just lets you Yeah.
564
:Keep going.
565
:But his arms are still wide open
when you decide to pursue him.
566
:Mm-hmm.
567
:He's still in the same exact spot Mm-hmm.
568
:You may have left him.
569
:you may have walked away, but
he's going to just wait for
570
:you wherever you left him.
571
:Yeah.
572
:Do you remember in the Bible, when it
said in the beginning that, and I'm
573
:thinking about this because I had that
conversation with, that, that guy that I
574
:told you that he's in the Army and TikTok
575
:Well, no, that's part of the conversation
that we had, that he pointed out.
576
:That God hardened the heart.
577
:Of, Pharaoh.
578
:Mm-hmm.
579
:So he can make people more stubborn.
580
:He can harden people's hearts
like saying, no, no, no.
581
:And then I was thinking now is that
part of his pursuit for us where
582
:he could purposely make a person,
closed off to see if their free
583
:will is still gonna choose God.
584
:Mm.
585
:And I feel like maybe that's things that
people ask themself, them being mm-hmm.
586
:Like, I don't know.
587
:I just, I was just thinking about that and
I'm like, because why would he do that?
588
:Why would he harden
someone's heart I don't know.
589
:Mm-hmm.
590
:Anyway, when you sent me that message
about like what you wanted this podcast
591
:to be about, what the topic was gonna
be about the pursuit, the pursuit would
592
:be like chasing after God's heart.
593
:one of the scriptures that stood
out to me was Matthew 6 33.
594
:Let's read it.
595
:but seek first his kingdom and his
righteousness, and all these things
596
:will be giving to you as well.
597
:we have to put God above everything else
in our life, and it's about prioritizing
598
:him, his will, his ways, his presence
before our wants and our worries.
599
:we often pursue the blessings
rather than pursuing the blesser.
600
:Mm-hmm.
601
:And I compare this to my life,
throughout this season of separation
602
:this divorce and everything.
603
:I mean, this is the second time that
I'm going through it, as you know.
604
:Mm-hmm.
605
:Yeah.
606
:Um, I went through this in
:
607
:I was reading all of my old journal
entries I realized that everything
608
:that I was asking God for was like.
609
:God, please restore my marriage.
610
:I was more focused on the things that God
could do for me and my marriage, rather
611
:than focusing on knowing who God is.
612
:Yeah.
613
:And his heart, building
that intimacy with God.
614
:pursuing a relationship with him.
615
:Yeah.
616
:I mean, that's how most people are though.
617
:Yeah.
618
:people only remember God, when
they're going through something.
619
:Yeah.
620
:A hundred percent.
621
:and that's the problem.
622
:we're so focused on
what God can do for us.
623
:how can he, How can he, I don't
know how, promote us at work.
624
:Yeah.
625
:oh my God, I need this promotion
'cause I need more money or
626
:my kids' health, you know?
627
:Yeah.
628
:Like, please the anxiety that
my kids are dealing with.
629
:Please.
630
:How am I gonna pay my rent?
631
:And I realized this looking at
these journal entries, I was
632
:so focused on God blessing me.
633
:Mm-hmm.
634
:And what can you do for me?
635
:Rather than knowing who really
like God really was, Yeah.
636
:And yeah, focusing on the relationship.
637
:now you're reading more too.
638
:Yeah.
639
:You hadn't really done that
as much I guess before.
640
:No.
641
:And the real treasure is
eternity that we have in him.
642
:now that you say eternity, if something
were to happen to me now, I feel I
643
:won't be afraid because I know Yeah.
644
:I know what's waiting for me.
645
:Of course.
646
:obviously I wouldn't want that
because I would never wanna
647
:leave my children behind.
648
:But the reality is that I
have a completely different
649
:understanding of what's beyond.
650
:And it's crazy because who wants to die?
651
:No, no one wants to die.
652
:But you know that what is waiting for
you is so beautiful and so amazing
653
:that it makes this life seem like, ugh.
654
:Yeah.
655
:I don't wanna have anxiety every day.
656
:I don't wanna go to work every day.
657
:Am I gonna have a job in heaven?
658
:God, you, we might.
659
:Hope not a nine to
five, we're gonna happy.
660
:We're gonna be a super, we're
gonna be with a good Lord.
661
:Happy, obnoxious.
662
:Nine to five Mary.
663
:Yeah.
664
:I dunno.
665
:It's funny because I put in the notes
that the pursuit for eternity with God.
666
:Mm-hmm.
667
:when you live with heaven and mind and not
just today, it brings a different sense
668
:of peace, And you don't worry about that.
669
:that hope for eternity.
670
:It strengthens us daily a hundred percent.
671
:And I don't know, the shift in
focus in this time of separation,
672
:I found that pursuing God is really
about seeking his presence rather
673
:than just looking for solutions.
674
:Okay.
675
:So my first thought was.
676
:What does his presence feel like?
677
:And we know because we cry just by
ourselves, while we're worshiping.
678
:So I feel like we know, but how
would you describe it to, to someone
679
:who is not maybe Christian yet, a
sense of like chills on my body.
680
:Mm-hmm.
681
:I truly feel like that sorrow
is lifted off my shoulder I
682
:just feel a sense of Relief.
683
:Yeah.
684
:it's hard to explain it, but in my
room, I have this picture of Jesus.
685
:Mm-hmm.
686
:hugging a woman.
687
:Mm-hmm.
688
:It's a painting that I
bought on the TikTok shop.
689
:Love the TikTok shop.
690
:Well, they have a lot of good stuff there.
691
:They, they do, but that's exactly how
I because I know that God's got me.
692
:Yeah.
693
:it's like you're finally able to breathe.
694
:I feel like that's the Holy Spirit.
695
:You reminded me to breathe, by the way.
696
:Really?
697
:Yeah.
698
:I took like a.
699
:I inhaled so deep.
700
:Well,
701
:Have you ever cry laughed where?
702
:Or laughed where it's turned into like
you're crying and you can't control it.
703
:Like you, you quite literally do not
know if you're laughing or crying.
704
:Has that ever happened to you?
705
:Yeah.
706
:Okay.
707
:That happened to me, maybe like
early twenties a few times.
708
:And I was just like, I
think I'm a little crazy.
709
:Oh, I think we all do.
710
:Yeah.
711
:But the day that I saw that Jesus, truck
that said Jesus is Lord, oh my God.
712
:I had that same reaction.
713
:Yeah.
714
:I had that same reaction.
715
:And for context, for listeners, my
cousin was having her first baby.
716
:I was on the way to the hospital.
717
:She was gonna give birth.
718
:She had a very rough birth by the way.
719
:But the night before I had prayed and
I had said, God, you know, please,
720
:I hope that everything goes well,
whatever, et cetera, et cetera.
721
:Sorry, the, I hope everything goes well.
722
:Um, and then I, I, I literally
feel like that was my answer.
723
:Mm-hmm.
724
:I missed my exit twice.
725
:Yeah.
726
:Going to the hospital with the GPS
on, like, how does that happen?
727
:How does that happen?
728
:Okay.
729
:I miss the exit twice and when I get
on the exit and it was starting to
730
:rain a little bit, I see that truck
clear as day, it was all black.
731
:Like the, the trailer was all black.
732
:And in the back it said Jesus is Lord
in white letters right in front of me.
733
:I was merging into the highway
and it was right in front of me.
734
:And at that moment, like I was in.
735
:I feel like I was in shock and
I just, I started laughing and
736
:immediately I started crying.
737
:Yeah.
738
:And I was like, you are so funny.
739
:You are so funny.
740
:the sense of humor is just kind
of like you wanna sign Yeah.
741
:You, you wanna know I was listening.
742
:There you go.
743
:And I couldn't stop the feeling.
744
:Yeah.
745
:And when I called you right after and I
was like, oh, Jesus, sorry, Jesus is here.
746
:Like, whatever.
747
:And he does that.
748
:God does that all the time.
749
:he's done that to me so many times.
750
:I was at the gym once and I
remember I grabbed a mat and
751
:there literally was a mark.
752
:It was across, across, yeah, it
was across on the actual mat.
753
:And this is this is happening through
the most difficult time of my life,
754
:And he is just like sending me
little signs of like, Hey, I'm here.
755
:Yeah.
756
:You know, reminding us that he's there,
he's there and he's, he's with us.
757
:he will never leave us.
758
:And God, that's how God works, and
he, he's been doing it for so long.
759
:But the problem is, we've never noticed
760
:Mm-hmm.
761
:Those little signs.
762
:now I'm looking constantly.
763
:Now it's like he's probably looking
down like I don't have a sign.
764
:Yeah.
765
:I don't have a sign for every day.
766
:I know.
767
:And that's why I was so emotional
because of my, like my family collage
768
:on my wall I feel like God has
always had those scriptures there.
769
:for so long Yeah.
770
:And it's 'cause you let go
of the things of the world.
771
:Yeah.
772
:in that moment, you stopped looking at the
world for answers for yourself Correct.
773
:and he was like, okay, turn your head.
774
:Yeah, turn your head and look.
775
:So I wanted to share, some ways to
pursue God, especially for the listeners.
776
:Okay.
777
:spending more time in his word, it's
so important to really dig into the
778
:word and read all the stories in the
Bible and like I'm so proud of you
779
:especially for being a baby Christian.
780
:Yeah, baby Christian for sure.
781
:No, but like baby Christian, the
Old Testament had 39 books and I'm
782
:here thinking that Deuteronomy,
that's how baby Christian I am.
783
:Okay, stop.
784
:I had to say that, And just
like how Leilani's dad told me,
785
:You gotta read the Bible
to know everything.
786
:Exactly what the word of God says, not
just what preachers are telling you.
787
:Exactly.
788
:So in other ways to pursue God would be to
pray, to understand, not pray to request.
789
:Yeah.
790
:Guide me, show me, Reveal yourself to me.
791
:Exactly.
792
:especially this generation, Yeah.
793
:Mm-hmm.
794
:we're always asking of him.
795
:Mm-hmm.
796
:um, living and surrender and trusting
him, that's a way that we can pursue him.
797
:It's just surrendering completely to him.
798
:it's so hard.
799
:that's me now.
800
:Yeah.
801
:especially in my marriage.
802
:if I'm being a hundred percent honest
and I really doubt that Ernesto has
803
:listened to any of these episodes.
804
:I don't think he has.
805
:I sent him the link, so I thought
that maybe he started one day,
806
:but I doubt he's listening.
807
:Ernesto, if you're listening,
I thank you for helping me.
808
:With my car.
809
:You're so sweet.
810
:But I know he's not.
811
:Yeah, he's probably not.
812
:I completely lost my train of thought.
813
:that you're living in surrender
now with your marriage.
814
:Oh, okay.
815
:So going back I really didn't
care and I was being so cold.
816
:And that made me think was
God hardening my heart I don't
817
:know, was it, a test I guess?
818
:was that a test on me?
819
:was I gonna really make that decision?
820
:I don't know.
821
:I still can't like fathom how now,
I was genuinely happy to see him.
822
:I like gave him a kiss and he even
feels it because he gave me Likedo
823
:kiss that I was like, really?
824
:I mean, I we're like making out in
front of it though, no, but it, it was.
825
:It was soft and yeah, we just kind
of stayed there for a few seconds
826
:and yeah, that never happened before.
827
:So how was it that that changed?
828
:I really am having trouble
thinking about that.
829
:Well, I know it was God.
830
:Okay.
831
:I, I know it was him.
832
:Yeah.
833
:Yeah.
834
:But anyway, whatever.
835
:Anyway, okay.
836
:This is like the most random conversation.
837
:I know.
838
:For real.
839
:so are we, what, what, what else?
840
:What do you got?
841
:What do we have?
842
:How much time?
843
:Oh my God.
844
:Editing this is gonna be a, a bee.
845
:Pain in the butt.
846
:Pain in the butt.
847
:It's okay.
848
:Um, Oh my God.
849
:If, if you read one of my, journal
entries, we read that for another day.
850
:Or Yeah, if you want to.
851
:No, really quickly, Hold on,
listen to this real quick.
852
:I feel so rejected and hopeless
at this point in my separation.
853
:Yeah, I am trying to work on myself.
854
:Oh my God.
855
:Shimo misses him.
856
:That is okay.
857
:Again, the cat just like lunch
up, whatever that's called.
858
:That's what cats do.
859
:Sari cats are not dogs.
860
:thank God I don't have to go to
the bathroom because I would've
861
:sharded myself right now.
862
:Oh my God.
863
:I'm not gonna cut this out
because it's the truth.
864
:Oh my God, this is so horrible.
865
:Okay.
866
:Once again, Mike didn't show
up because he overslept.
867
:I know this happens to all of us, but
now I'm left alone to figure things out.
868
:I was sad.
869
:I was disappointed.
870
:'cause at this point I
feel like he does not care.
871
:I'm hurt by his actions.
872
:Oh my God, this sick so depressing.
873
:If I would give that a title,
I would say, that's Ana.
874
:Thank you.
875
:Thank God I didn't do that.
876
:Oh my gosh.
877
:these are so horrible.
878
:I'm sad.
879
:God, give me strength.
880
:I know my worth.
881
:I'm scared.
882
:that's a whole other brandy.
883
:I'm glad you and I were not friends
and that because the tough love
884
:that I would have given you.
885
:Oh, you don't even know.
886
:Oh, you don't even know.
887
:the people at Love Unlimited Church.
888
:they were sick of You saw me.
889
:They were sick of you.
890
:I know They were sick of you.
891
:No, I wasn't.
892
:They I'm just kidding.
893
:I'm just kidding.
894
:they saw how hurt I was,
your whole other branding.
895
:But now I'm, I am focused
on the right thing.
896
:Like I'm focused on knowing God more.
897
:Yeah.
898
:Reading the Bible, really learning the
word of God, not just the scriptures
899
:to apply to what I'm goings through.
900
:Yeah.
901
:In life at that moment, yeah.
902
:Because at the end of the
day, we have a manual to life.
903
:We, we have a manual.
904
:My dad wrote that in my Bible.
905
:Where's my Bible?
906
:Hold on.
907
:Don't leave yet.
908
:Don't leave yet.
909
:It's here.
910
:I'm still recording.
911
:Let me read you what my dad wrote to me.
912
:How beautiful is this?
913
:This shows you that I'm
not a baby Christian.
914
:Yeah, this Bible.
915
:Look at this Bible.
916
:2006.
917
:Yeah.
918
:Wow.
919
:I was what?
920
:One high school.
921
:My God, you made me feel so old.
922
:I was a sophomore.
923
:December 25th, 2006 is the
one he gave me this Bible.
924
:All right.
925
:So Brandy is opening her Bible
and she's going to read what her
926
:dad wrote in her Bible go ahead.
927
:Dear Brandy, this is not just a
book, it is a manual on how to live.
928
:And you just said that.
929
:I just said that.
930
:You just said that.
931
:That's insane.
932
:It has no expiration because it
continues to give life every day.
933
:The pages are opened.
934
:It is the foundation of youth.
935
:I hope you spend time and seek
its secrets it has within it.
936
:Wow.
937
:If you do, you will find that you
are Brandy Townsend, a child of God
938
:and yes, my child, a mother, a wife.
939
:This was before I became
a mother and a wife.
940
:Wow.
941
:A mother, a wife and child.
942
:You will find how to love your
husband, how to love yourself, how to
943
:interact with others, and how to find
happiness, health, and yes, wealth.
944
:It is also universal.
945
:So it will work for a potential
husband to teach him who he is,
946
:how he should act, and how to
treat a woman as well as others.
947
:Everyone seeks happiness in a world
of confusion and distractions.
948
:Oh my God.
949
:Wow.
950
:Trying to get to the top.
951
:to get the most money and personal things,
but in the end, when all is over, most
952
:will say these things were not important.
953
:And life passed them
by getting to the top.
954
:So don't be one of them.
955
:Learn who you are.
956
:Live, love, and be happy.
957
:I love you.
958
:PS don't.
959
:We wish fathers had taken this
place and set the example,
960
:but it's still not too late.
961
:Sometimes it takes a woman of knowledge
to kick a man in his butt, to get
962
:him to take the place and lead.
963
:Love you.
964
:That is just, wow.
965
:Sometimes it takes a woman of knowledge
to kick a man in his butt and get
966
:him to the place it takes to lead.
967
:My father wrote this.
968
:he's kind of speaking to
me in a way in that line.
969
:Isn't it beautiful?
970
:He wrote that to me and like
I've read it so many times,
971
:but I don't know why right now.
972
:It's like just.
973
:Yeah.
974
:But that is amazing message.
975
:Right.
976
:And I can't believe that I said the
same thing that he started with.
977
:I know.
978
:That's why I was like, stop right there.
979
:I have to read this.
980
:Because I remember him saying that this
was Emmanuel, and I have a lot of Bibles.
981
:You do.
982
:You gave me my first Bible.
983
:I do.
984
:I gave you your one.
985
:But this is the one
that I cherish the most.
986
:I really don't, I mean, I don't blame you.
987
:I love what he wrote, man.
988
:And that just Wow.
989
:That stuck in my head.
990
:A woman of knowledge.
991
:Oh, what a woman to kick.
992
:And you know why he wrote that?
993
:if it wasn't from my stepmother is
the reason why my dad is in church.
994
:My stepmother is the reason why their
marriage has lasted over 30 years.
995
:in law enforcement being a police
officer and I you see the ugly,
996
:you see a lot of evil in the world.
997
:And if it wasn't for her faith
and it wasn't for the power of the
998
:praying wife, like he would be lost,
and so that's why he wrote that.
999
:It's funny because now after finishing
numbers and I feel like I'm dwelling so
:
00:40:58,409 --> 00:41:04,054
much on numbers and numbers, but it was
such a challenge knowing that what your
:
00:41:04,054 --> 00:41:09,624
dad wrote now I just keep thinking I
finally passed this stage in the Bible.
:
00:41:09,624 --> 00:41:12,504
Now I know if I finish that I
can get through the rest, right?
:
00:41:12,564 --> 00:41:16,224
I have to remember, but
oh, it's gonna be hard.
:
00:41:16,464 --> 00:41:20,751
But anyway, the worst stage in my
marriage with myself, me fighting
:
00:41:20,811 --> 00:41:21,921
whatever I was going through.
:
00:41:22,151 --> 00:41:23,861
I'm over that, I'm over that.
:
00:41:23,861 --> 00:41:28,141
And now I'm ready to really accept
that I need to do work on me too.
:
00:41:28,201 --> 00:41:28,501
Yeah.
:
00:41:28,551 --> 00:41:29,361
And I'm so glad.
:
00:41:29,871 --> 00:41:34,321
I'm so glad because it's just
made so many things easier.
:
00:41:34,501 --> 00:41:35,011
Yeah.
:
00:41:35,491 --> 00:41:37,958
And less like less heavy.
:
00:41:37,958 --> 00:41:38,018
Yeah.
:
00:41:38,098 --> 00:41:39,178
But I'll tell you one thing.
:
00:41:39,228 --> 00:41:44,758
I mean, if he's willing to put up the
fight and he's willing to choose to
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love you every day, be patient with him,
he has gone through a lot in his life.
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Yeah.
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His own mom.
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Like I really think about it.
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Like his mom doesn't see Ella.
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Yeah.
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He knows that.
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Just like my dad's mom never calls me.
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she was never been around.
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my dad suffers that.
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So like I think now my own
husband is going through that.
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Yeah, of course.
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Plus everything else
that he's gone through.
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It's I need to have some grace
and of course not be so hard.
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Yeah.
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A hundred percent.
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that's a, that's the thing, love is
a choice You're choosing to love.
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It's not a feeling.
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It's a choice that you're making.
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Just the same with it.
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God chooses to love us.
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Yeah.
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Even when we turn our back on him
and we do wrong and we betray him.
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the same way that Jesus
chose to love, judas, yes.
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When he betrayed him,
when he betrayed him.
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And he still loved him and he
still asked God to forgive us all.
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For we not know.
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They do not know what they
do, what they're doing.
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Yeah.
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So it's the same way, you have to
choose to love your husband and if he
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chooses to love you and stick around
and not walk away, then fight for that.
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Yeah.
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I realized the other day that I also
haven't been praying as I should be.
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Yeah.
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It really sucks to say that because
I'm his wife, I should be praying for
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him more than I pray for anything.
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Correct.
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I pray for so many other things.
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Yeah.
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And he's always been the
last one that I pray for.
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He should be the first.
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Exactly, because it's God, then it's
your husband, then it's your children,
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That's why it's very important to do that.
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Especially if he's willing to stick
around because I wish that my husband
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would've been willing to stick around,
I wish he wouldn't have walked away.
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I was okay with everything.
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Even if he told me tomorrow he
couldn't walk anymore I was gonna
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stick to him, but I just wish he
wouldn't have given up so easily.
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He had a marriage, so don't give up.
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Don't give up.
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Try not to, I just say love
is always a, it's a choice.
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And that's a problem that like people
think it's a feeling and it's not.
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if people had their manual and they
read their manual, they would know.
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If people don't, they don't.
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That's the thing.
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I just pray that yeah, I now,
I pray for his salvation.
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I just pray that he, you're still better
than me because you pray more for him
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still than I've prayed for my own husband.
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But I know that I have
to do better in that too.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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But anyway, what else?
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What do you got?
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Oh my God.
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I am just so happy.
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Me too.
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I'm so happy that everything has been
okay because this has been great.
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Yeah.
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It's fun.
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Alright, should we wrap up?
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I think we should.
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Yeah.
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I think we're done for today.
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We always have so much to talk about.
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We really do.
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I could quite literally bring up another
conversation that I wanted to bring up.
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We probably could.
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Cheers.
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This amazing.
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Cheers.
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Cheers to our friendship.
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To our podcast.
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Yes.
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'cause I'm just a.
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I mean, I mean, we could do this
like a once in a month thing.
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Yeah.
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I am the guest on your
podcast I love it you so much.
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I love it.
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I love it.
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It's great.
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Never thought I'd be doing this, honestly.
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But you know what?
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God planted the seed in my
brain, or so I think he did.
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But I'm very grateful that he did because
I know that someone is gonna be like, ura.
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It resonates with me.
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Yeah,
